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Reader Comments on Aardvark Daily 11 Jan 2001

From: Peter
For : The Editor (for publication)
Subj: Internet Passports

The problem I believe with a 'Internet Nation' idea would
be how the Internet Laws would be decided.  If it were like
what is currently occuring - for example the Council or
Europes CyberCrime Treaty - then there would be a set of
laws that Internet Citizens had little control over.

In such an environment the 'Internet Laws' would be
determined by corporate interests.  Unlike a passport,
a 'electronic passport' would be the ultimate surveilence
device.

If the Internet is to become a 'virtual country', we should
have the same rights and systems within it as other
countries.  This means there should be democracy and civil
rights, such as the right to privacy (ie not to have every
action monitored).

Regarding democracy, I believe for the first time there is
a real chance of citizens from taking part in forming
policy, and voting on legislation directly, rather than
having 'representitives'.  Representitives were only
introduced because of the logistical problems of getting
everyones opinions for each topic.  With the rise of the
Internet voting on each bill should be easy.

This is a more pure form of democracy, where people have
some real control over law, rather than an ineffectual 'one
vote every three years' system.




From: Stan
For : The Editor (for publication)
Subj: Cyber Passport

I would if I could trust them (and my own PC) not to be
hacked and have my Identity stolen by some geeky 12 year
old Filipino hacker.

I can see all sorts of 'cyberspace fugitives' on the run
and the Cyber Police conducting searches ( brings back
thoughts of Tom Clancy's Net Force).




From: Daniel Free
For : The Editor (for publication)
Subj: online law? absolutely not!

     Although the idea of making a "cyberspace" country or
at least a set of laws dictating what is right and wrong on
the internet enforced globaly would solve some problems it
would only be in the very short term.

     Anyone wanting to could quite easily do many of the
following: a) steal another persons identity/certificate.
made even easyer by the fact that all it is  is a digital
signature.  b) spoof digital signatures c) an almost
limitless amount of things that my unimginative mind can
not think of right now.

     But the real problem is this. who makes the laws? the
answer of course is 1/2 by governments that are already
passing through laws in individual countries that force
people to do things like hand of personal PGP decyption
keys. Then of course there are the other 1/2 will no doubt
be from intelectual property lawyers wanting complete
control over anything to do with anything.

     The internet would decompose at an even faster rate,
rotting more and more untill it becomes basicly like just
another irc channel of forum moderated by an admin who if
he doesnt like what someone is saying simply gets rid of
it.

     personal movie review:i thought "bring it on was one
of the worst movies ever made"
     intelectual property lawer: sue his ass and have his
internet passport suspended for slander and direct
infringements on our companies rights.
     human rights activists:

they cant say anything as they have allready been banned
for disagreeing with government policies and saying so on
the internet

basicly the internet is not ready to be policed. least of
all by governments or bureaucracies and if it
were to happen many opinions and ideas would be stopped and
stiffled. which would be a true crime against humanity.

     well thats my 2 cents worth. if you disagree, good for
you. post a reply, not a flame.




From: Joe Dydwowicz
For : The Editor (for publication)
Subj: Internet Passport

"This electronic document would uniquely identify them
while they were online -- thus allowing crimes to be traced
to the perpetrator and minimising the cost of enforcement."

Question:
What if they did the crime form a public access terminal?

You'd need your Internet Passport before you could use any
public-access Net connection just as you need your EFTPOS
card to withdraw money from an ATM. No card/passport, no
money/access - Aardvark

With amount of crackers and hackers out there soon you
would have people generating "fake id" which could possibly
blame someone else for thier action?

Fake IDs are always a challenge to law-enforcement but,
just as modern drivers' licenses and passports are pretty
hard to forge, it would not be difficul to create "strong IDs"
that would be similarly difficult to fake.  Perhaps part of
the passport is a magnetic or smart-card and the other
part is a memorised PIN number.  This works well enough to
protect our banking system with hundreds of billions of dollars
at stake. - Aardvark

There are a multitude of other reasons if you think about
it.

This is totally a no-go...



From: Rob K
For : for publication
Subj: Internet Prisons for Passport violations?

If a "cybergovernment" is formed, I'll be the first to
start a revolution.  This is tantamount to a WAR. Simply
stated, we live in peace with a moderate structure based on
technological innovation and standardization (essential to
make it work).  These clowns come in, immediately start
taking over and forcing netizens to bark their way, and we
lose individuality (the essence of the Internet).  Specific
example:  What if the prevailing body becomes
ultraconservative Moslem?  Will we ban Jews and cut off the
hands of anyone surfing for cybersex?  What about an
Internet Prison?  If this were virtual Dungeons & Dragons,
it wouldn't be a problem.  Lock up your character in a
dungeon somewhere until a gremlin comes in and eats you up!

Yikes.
Rob K
Baton Rouge, LA





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